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Saturday, September 19, 2009

Joe Wilson's "You Lie!" | What Actually Happened...

25 comments:

Leonard said...

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149, May 7, 1918

Joe Wilson spoke the truth.

Anonymous said...

Oh please. He's a pissed-off white boy angry because a black man was telling him about Hispanics. His angry little brain couldn't handle it.

Anonymous said...

You are totally off-base on this one Leonard. First, of all, I am not a Democrat. I don't care if you like, hate or are indifferent about Obama or not, you do not exhibit disrespect in that kind of decorum. Joe Wilson needs to learn about control. It is just plain wrong. What kind of message do we send to the rest of the world, our allies and enemies.
We are definately becoming a house divided.

Anonymous said...

How come there was no such concern for decorum when there was a Republican in the White House? You can't have it both ways, and the Democrats are only reaping the shitstorm that they have sown.

Anonymous said...

Looks like Obama is gettin ready to back out of Afganistan and is looking at every eazy way possible..Remember him bowing to the Saudi King?..there is more than one way to win a war it all depends on what side you are REALLY on. If you really want to win the war with Islam just stop patronizing them in their dirty quick shops, gas stations, and restaurants. Switch doctors, Demand the schools get rid of the teachers corrupting your children with their perverted ways. This will dry up their funds that are sent for the Jihad. There is a meeting in DC on the 29th in support of the radical moslems. You stupid voters are being duped again..they are out to rule the USA the same way they now rule Europe..its their plan for the world to become Moslem.

Anonymous said...

Do we now have a Caesar Chaves that won't allow us to criticize him? Last I heard there is still free speech in this country no matter where is is spoken. The truth hurts and OBAMA is one of the biggest liars around.

Anonymous said...

I have never heard a President publicly belittled or disrespected in front of the Congress and the entire nation. Is there a right to criticize? Yes. Is there free speech? Yes. But there is a right time and a right place for everything. Wise up you morons!

Anonymous said...

Our definition of "decorous" is rather stodgy and inhibited compared to much of the rest of the civilized world. For categorical proof, just watch Prime Minister's Question Time from any of the innumerable erstwhile British colonies (or Mother Britain herself); there, leaders are not treated as beatific paragons of unassailable virtue, but as human beings accountable to the greater representative body. The Framers of the US Constitution provided for just such a system here; that is why they entrusted Congress with the express right to draft legislation, override a Presidential veto, and remove him from office should he violate his constitutional oath. Therefore, the Congress, and by extension the American people, are the President's bosses, and he should not accuse any of *them* of lying during a joint session. Joe Wilson is a hero, and will be lauded as such by successive generations, lamenting how easily we slipped into the clutches of an aloof, vindictive tyrant.

Leonard said...

I am not off base at all. Thw quote by Theodore Roosevelt is very appropriate and timely.

Whether Wilson should have expressed himself during the speech is fair debate, however, this administration, in my opinion, and I think by its own actions has demonstrated that it does not want any debate let alone criticism anywhere at any time.

Anonymous said...

Like I said Leonard, there is a time and place for everything. What Joe said was uncalled for and disrespectful no matter how you or anyone feels about the President. Even if Wilson would've said, "Go Cubs Go", he would've been totally out of line. It was no such place for an outburst. Some people just don't get it.

Anonymous said...

I get it alright when George W. Bush got booed by several Democrats at least 3 times during his State of the Union Speech in 2005 that was fine and justified but when "The Chosen One" gets called out with "You Lie" that is disrespectful and a disgrace. The hypocritical crap going on in this country is just ridiculous. You can't have it both ways. And no I do not think anyone is right to disrepect any president of the United States.

Anonymous said...

Obama himself is disrespecting the very office he holds by all of his lieing. One lie after the other that is perfectly obvious to anyone following the news on any channel or paper. Wake up you idiots and smell the traitor.

Anonymous said...

Shut up.

Anonymous said...

LIBERAL SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS ARE RUINING THE COUNTRY WHAAARRRRRGAAARRRRBLLLLLLLL!

Anonymous said...

Looks like the communist leftest group the Apollo Group wrote OBAMAS stimulus bill and our dumb or maybe traitorus senators voted for it. NOW WILL YOU BELEIVE ME? 787 billion pissed away by Obama and co with nothing to show for it but more unemployment, no real economic growth and more confusion. Anyone who voted for this four ring circus should have his voting rights recinded. TODAY. And for those with voting rights left VOTE THEM ALL OUT EVERYWHERE.

Anonymous said...

COMMUNIST LEFTIES COMING TO KILL US SUSPEND CIVIL LIBERTIES BLACK PRESIDENTAAAGHHHHWHAAAAARRRRGARRRRBLLLLL!

Anonymous said...

What is wrong with disrespecting that lying, baby murdering, whelp of harlot known as Barack Obama? He is the worst form of human debris, a casual mureder of the most innocent of life.

Please...no form of denigration can show more disregard for Obama than he has shown to the unborn.

Simply put, Obama is a low life baby slaughtering sum bad. I will accord him the same respect I accord a dog dropping on the sidewalk.

Anonymous said...

5:38pm -Who gives a shit what you think. No one.

Anonymous said...

7:13 certainly not a nigger like you.

Anonymous said...

Hey 9:47 I think you meant to call him a dumb ass nigger; you were being too kind. And I prefer tar-baby, it has a better ring when you are discussing shines. Then again coon is pretty good too.

Anonymous said...

It must make you feel real good that you can make those foul ethnic remarks and get away with it, Mr. Anonymous. It proves nothing more than you're a racist coward lacking maturity not to mention lacking a brain as well.

Anonymous said...

Greetings 9:55:

I am not sure how my neglecting to state niggers lack a brain makes me immature, but as you wish. Here is the post, with the correction you insisted upon:

Hey 9:47 I think you meant to call him a dumb ass nigger who lacks a brain.

Now does it convey the intended sentiment 9:55? Don't thank me, I am glad to be of help and thank you for bringing my deficiency of insult to my attention.

Note to self, when referring to stupid niggers in the future also include a redundant statement about the spook's lack of a brain. Apparently tar-babies need to hear this twice. Makes sense though, that is probably why so many of them have repeat the same grades in school.

Anonymous said...

5:12pm, I'm black and anywhere you want to meet, just say where and when. I'll welcome you to call me a nigger to my face if you have the guts. Are you up to it?

Anonymous said...

You really need to distinguish between being a man of color and a nigger. I am a person of color. Your actions demonstrate what you are very clearly. You American blacks often are of the lowest form. Over in Germany and the UK people of color conduct ourselves as productive members of society. Same overall genetic make-up yet over here you get the likes of you. It disgusts me, for where people see a successful man of color when they see me, they talk to you, and no matter what job you hold, no matter what car you drive, no matter what house you live in ,the inner nigger stand revealed.

Since I have been in this country I have never experienced the racism you constantly see., for in general it does not exist. And I am embarrassed by Barack Obama as I am you. You disgust me. I came to this country to build my fortune, to get away from the hand of socialism, and I come and see this country taken down by the likes of you: a person a similar skin hue who cannot see the truth. Life did not make you a nigger your limited scope of vision and refusal to see the world as it really is makes you one, even if day by day and moment by moment you do not live your life as one. I knew you would resort to threat of violence; it is your nature. The nigger stands this revealed It is simply because you have a limited ability to deal with your frustrations. Standing on the outside, as a man of color, I can tell you, your frustrations with the world of are your own making. How is it I was able to tell your skin color over the Internet? It is because your hatred and anger toward this country, as it exists in your mind, permeates your every word. That people no longer will embrace Barack Obama because he has revealed himself for what he is, as you have now revealed yourself for is something you apparently cannot comprehend.

There are people like myself, Clarence Thomas, Walter Williams, Larry Elder who see the world as it is. And then there are people like you, Barack Obama, Colin Powell and Bill Cosby who mask their hatred and in chameleon like fashion attempt to blend in, to feign assimilation, all the while harboring a burning hatred. A hatred that is stoked in the fertile shackles of your own self imposed limitations. Racism endemic to some people of all skin colors. But as a society, in the U.S., that barrier no longer exists. The United States of America thought there were electing a man of color, I suspect in part, as an attempt to move beyond a racial divide that is constantly stoked by people who think they are enlightened such as yourself. The trouble is Obama revealed his true nature, his hatred for the greatness of this nation, and his desire to see every man and woman shackled into the bondage of Government servitude, slaves to their masters.

You need to remember, the white man did not enslave the black man, black men enslaved the black men and sold them to white people. Today Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton are the slave masters making the sweeping vast majority of the people of color of this nation niggers. But you are only a nigger because you allow yourself to be one. It is a state of mind. And you state of mind even comes across in casual conversations on the Internet.

I understand you will reject my message, blinded yet again by your hatred. Once again the sahckles that enslave you, the thing that make you a nigger are self imposed.

Anonymous said...

Your double talk is proof you have no idea what you are even saying. You are nothing but a racist thru and thru. That's because your fucked up parents were race haters too. Eat shit.