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Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Illinois Dishes Out State Grants (Taxpayer Funds) to Religious Institutions, Schools and Churches...Okay or Not?

A Chicago Tribune story reviews over 100 grants (taxpayer funds) that are being dished out by the Quinn administration to various religious institutions, including school and churches.

Many of these grants are for construction projects and things like computer labs, auditoriums and gymnasiums.

Are these appropriate use of taxdollars or a violation of the separation of church and state?

Critics say state politicians have gone wild in recent years diverting taxdollars for private social service programs and institutions while the actual public priorities such as transportation, public schools, roads, bridges and public safety suffer.

Proponents say these private institutions deserve assistance because of their roles in the community and that specific religious education is not funded.

What do you say?


Anonymous said...

It is far better than the tax dollars that go to ACORN or LULAC or ICIRR and NCIRR which directly cater to illegal aliens.

Anonymous said...

So they aren't taxed AND they get State grants? I don't think so...

Anonymous said...

This is all part of the "Legislator Initiative" process begun under George Ryan. Each legislator, as long as they are in good standing with their party leadership, is allocated a pot of money to pass out to organizations in their district.

While legislators talk about fiscal responsibility, they refuse to reduce the money that they have for thir "initiative" projects.

It is the same as aldermen in Aurora who have "ward funds" to allocate to their favorite organizations and projects.

Every legislator should be required to publish on the internet a complete list of their "initiatve" projects. It would be informative and shocking.

Anonymous said...

Shades of the Bush "faith based initives."

Hell no!!!

Brittanicus said...

The federal government has the prospect in proving to the American workers and legal population that they are wrong in thinking that politicians are catering to the open border parasites? Two laws could be imposed, that would assign employment to elderly citizens and others, as a vanguard in inspecting I-9's auditing forms for use with the E-Verify, computer verification software. Thousands of jobs could be created as an interior illegal immigration force, giving ICE more backing in investigating businesses hiring foreign labor? In all regions of the country these interior inspectors would listen to Whistle blowers and then investigate companies, such as with the apparel company in Los Angeles who had to jettison 1800 foreign nationals. To me it's very questionable that a company the size of that clothing company could be completely ignorant of its workers, specifically in a SANCTUARY CITY AND STATE like CALIFORNIA?

Another idea is in the commencing voting season next year? Instead of just taking the incumbents and clean faced lawmakers by their word? That when they swear an oath that they will protect and defend the American people, we should hold them to it? We should ensure their honesty by having them sign an agreement executed under perjury, that he/she will defend us from foreign and domestic enemies? Let's face it if you study the immigration enforcement grading at NUMBERSUSA, a highly regarded pro-sovereignty website, you will observe Sen. Harry Reid has a C- ? He and Nancy Pelosi, Janet Napolitano, Sen.Chuck Schumer (F- ) Diane Feinstein ( F ) and countless others have used their political influence to under fund, create obstacles and otherwise use Senate-House laws to collapse any worthwhile enforcement laws such as police apprehension 287 G and the No-Match letter? Ask yourself? What do these politicians have to gain from keeping our border fence wide open? Even the church is approving the BLANKET AMNESTY, when the 1986 was just a facade of fraud. Perhaps the churches would like to open their coffers, homes and bring in illegal alien families to squat there, instead of dumping it in the lap of the taxpayers yet again? My Baptist church has very few passionate people, when it means feeding their own families?

Just type into Google each name followed by illegal immigration as many are brought and sold once they get to Washington, as out from the sleazy woodwork comes the lobbyists with bags of money. For an example type in Pelosi--illegal immigration--corruption. One headline reads--NANCY PELOSI CULTURE OF CORRUPTION! Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein Appropriated Federal Funds for San Francisco DA's Program that Expunged & Kept Illegal’s Criminal Records from the Feds: The diseased lists of political sleaze goes on and on. The rumors that Pelosi has vineyards in Central California have an abundant illegal alien labor? If you really want to know the--TRUTH--about the next path to citizenship for the 20 to 30 million foreign nationals, just surf the net.

Brittanicus said...

GOOGLE--JUDICIAL WATCH and learn what your financial future has in store for you. Ordinary people have been crippled by financing illegal immigration? That's right! They bleed you for more and more taxes to supplement the poorly paid income of illegal workers? Remember it’s not the US government who pays for free health care, education for the millions of illegal kids brought over here. Removing the chance of a decent education for our kids? It's the US taxpayer who can hardly afford to balance their own budgetary needs. The only people who benefit from cut rate labor are the dishonest business owners. That's why we need mandatory E-Verify, to disrupt their hiring of cheap labor. Even our kids cannot get summer jobs any more, because fast food employers hire illegal workers?

If American workers don't get organized and run these political renegades out of town, we will have a BLANKET AMNESTY to deal with. We can stop this travesty by holding their feet to fire at 202-224-3121 and yelling they will not be reelected.


Today, Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) will be offering an amendment to the Commerce, Justice, and Science appropriations bill that would require the U.S. Census Bureau to add questions regarding immigration & citizenship status to the 2010 decennial census. If these questions are not asked it is certain that illegal aliens will be counted in the census and states will lose/gain Congressional seats (and electoral college votes) due to this counting of illegal aliens.DEMAND FROM YOUR SENATORS THAT SEN. VITTERS' AMENDMENT BE INCLUDED.

Anonymous said...

11:21 wold you rather the money go to acorn that teaches people how to open whorehouses and defraud the government over a group that might feed the homeless or offer shelter. If that's the case then you a public forum really shined a spotlight on who you are. hate will never win! obama is all about reconstructing the u.s. in his own twisted ideas of socialism the sooner everyone wakes up to this the better. Do you really think it's a good idea for the government to force you do anything and as a citizen face jail time if you don't comply? If you don't stop following the spoon fed-kool aide b.s. you have been following we all will go down. When the power of love overcomes the love of power we shall be free! oh and before you label me a racist because i oppose obama i am a proud black American democrat

Anonymous said...

To the "proud black American Democrat":

You must be too young to remember the struggle.

If you havn't experienced it at least read about it.

Anonymous said...

What ever happened to the "separation of church and state"?

Yes, I know it is not in the constitution, but the founding fathers wrote about the issue enough to know their intent.

When the two are merged, the church suffers more than the state.

As a Christian, I would like to see the church taxed. It would eliminate the "electronic crazies" that are on TV.

Anonymous said...

Well let us see Aurora lays off employees but we can build aWeisner Park on Broadway by the river and a Dog Park for his wife at the Park. Just does not seem right.

Anonymous said...

2:58 - why is it not right? Do you think an employee is of greater value? I think it comes down on individual merit. I would trim the employment rolls substantially and not build the two parks in question.

I think city positions need to be greatly trimmed, and yet last night the city added more commissions and impediments to this desired end. This of course means they will create and reports which will mean people will be needed to pay attention to them and of course to implement the provisions of the policies recommended. Hence the Hydra grows yet more limbs.

JefferyClark said...

10/14/09 9:52 AM

If you would do proper research, you would see that the founding fathers did not want a state-religion setup, such as the Church of England. They were NOT trying to separate church and state.

The phrase "wall of separation between the church and the state" was originally coined by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptists on January 1, 1802. His purpose in this letter was to assuage the fears of the Danbury, Connecticut Baptists, and so he told them that this wall had been erected to protect them. The metaphor was used exclusively to keep the state out of the church's business, not to keep the church out of the state's business.