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Thursday, June 28, 2012

US Supreme Court Says Obama Health Care Law Is a Tax



Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) uphelds health care law (Obamacare), agreeing with the argument that it violates the Commerce Clause, but saying the government has the power to impose a tax on those who don't buy health insurance.

(NOTE:  click here to read the full text of the opinion of the Supreme Court)





Didn't President Obama say it's not a tax?

Obama: Health Care Mandate is Not a Tax
ABC News Interview - September 20, 2009

STEPHANOPOULOS: …Under this mandate, the government is forcing people to spend money, fining you if you don’t. How is that not a tax?

OBAMA: Well, hold on a second, George. Here – here’s what’s happening. You and I are both paying $900, on average – our families – in higher premiums because of uncompensated care. Now what I’ve said is that if you can’t afford health insurance, you certainly shouldn’t be punished for that. That’s just piling on. If, on the other hand, we’re giving tax credits, we’ve set up an exchange, you are now part of a big pool, we’ve driven down the costs, we’ve done everything we can and you actually can afford health insurance, but you’ve just decided, you know what, I want to take my chances. And then you get hit by a bus and you and I have to pay for the emergency room care, that’s…

STEPHANOPOULOS: That may be, but it’s still a tax increase.

OBAMA: No. That’s not true, George. The – for us to say that you’ve got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase. What it’s saying is, is that we’re not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you anymore than the fact that right now everybody in America, just about, has to get auto insurance. Nobody considers that a tax increase. People say to themselves, that is a fair way to make sure that if you hit my car, that I’m not covering all the costs.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But it may be fair, it may be good public policy.

OBAMA: No, but – but, George, you – you can’t just make up that language and decide that that’s called a tax increase.

OBAMA: What – what – if I – if I say that right now your premiums are going to be going up by 5 or 8 or 10 percent next year and you say well, that’s not a tax increase; but, on the other hand, if I say that I don’t want to have to pay for you not carrying coverage even after I give you tax credits that make it affordable…

STEPHANOPOULOS: I – I don’t think I’m making it up. Merriam Webster’s Dictionary: Tax – “a charge, usually of money, imposed by authority on persons or property for public purposes.”

OBAMA: George, the fact that you looked up Merriam’s Dictionary, the definition of tax increase, indicates to me that you’re stretching a little bit right now. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have gone to the dictionary to check on the definition. I mean,…

STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, no, but…

OBAMA: What you’re saying is…

STEPHANOPOULOS: I wanted to check for myself. But your critics say it is a tax increase.

OBAMA: My critics say everything is a tax increase. My critics say that I’m taking over every sector of the economy. You know that. Look, we can have a legitimate debate about whether or not we’re going to have an individual mandate or not, but…

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you reject that it’s a tax increase?

OBAMA: I absolutely reject that notion.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

More lies and deceit from OBAMAS "government".

Anonymous said...

hmmm...let's see, the President didn't view the mandate penalty was a tax...some members of the Supreme Court felt that it is indeed a tax...so the President and the SC have different viewpoints. This is in no way a lie or a deceit on the part of the President...more grasping at straws from the right.

Anonymous said...

Maybe now the Republicans will be willing to sit down and actually work with the Democrats to fix the flaws in the law. There's a lot of good things in it that the majority of Americans want, but there are things to fix. Now that the "throw the baby out with the bathwater" attempt has struck out, maybe the Republicans will actually try to do something for the American people, rather than just for themselves.

Then again, maybe not.

Anonymous said...

I see in the fishwrap that Aurora will be celebrating the fourth as the Birth of a Nation. Looks like this year they can celebrate it's death along with the Obama care act. Roberts just put a black eye on the statue of liberty and her future.

Anonymous said...

Another rotten f===kn supreme lawyer making law....just like the abortion issue. Looks like the HARVARD connection to the destruction of the USA is alive and well.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe the SCOTUS actually got it right. After all, the individual mandate was considered constitutional BY THE REPUBLICANS when THEY suggested it during the Clinton administration. It only became unconstitutional in their eyes when the Democrats enacted it (yeah, no politics there!). We're all required to have car insurance because when an uninsured motorist has a wreck, it ends up costing all the rest of us more. This is the same thing.

Anonymous said...

And now the Repubs are going to once again stage a purely political theater to pass another repeal of the entire law. Remember they already passed one that went no where. Notice they keep talking about "Repeal and Replace", but the only law they propose is repeal, meaning overturning both the flawed parts of the law AND the good parts of the law that average Americans want. Somehow that replace part doesn't seem to make it into the Republican bills.

If the Repubs repeal the law, they'll never get around to the replace part. So we're back to the rationing, unavailable care, waiting lists, getting dropped off insurance when you get sick, and faceless bureacrats deciding whether you can get a certain treatment or not that we had BEFORE Obamacare passed. That's right, all the things the Repubs say Obamacare creates, have been in place for years. It's called managed care. Anybody who's part of an HMO is quite familiar with all those things.

Repubs, put up or shut up. If you REALLY believe in "Repeal and Replace", then include the replacement in your bill. You guys had total control for a while and didn't do jack diddly on this issue. If you didn't pass these things then, why should we believe you'll ever pass them now?

We got a law. It's got some issues that need fixing, but at least we FINALLY have something. Propose some laws that fix those specific problems, don't use an IED when we need a scalpel.